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		<title>By: Jeremy Carlson</title>
		<link>http://www.tuttoaster.com/creating-a-text-drop-shadow-without-using-css3/#comment-793</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Carlson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those posting stats, those numbers change depending on the site. A client of mine has 60% using IE. Yet for mine 57% are using FF, so you can&#039;t go by numbers based on any one site. It has to be taken into context.

That said, while this is an ok idea, I&#039;m with everyone else. Use CSS3, and let the rest degrade gracefully. I&#039;m not about to add extra divs to get a simple effect most users are not going to notice, and ones in IE won&#039;t know it&#039;s missing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those posting stats, those numbers change depending on the site. A client of mine has 60% using IE. Yet for mine 57% are using FF, so you can&#8217;t go by numbers based on any one site. It has to be taken into context.</p>
<p>That said, while this is an ok idea, I&#8217;m with everyone else. Use CSS3, and let the rest degrade gracefully. I&#8217;m not about to add extra divs to get a simple effect most users are not going to notice, and ones in IE won&#8217;t know it&#8217;s missing.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
		<link>http://www.tuttoaster.com/creating-a-text-drop-shadow-without-using-css3/#comment-792</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh, there are loads of pros and cons to using this. Like Jennifer R said, duplicates could be removed and yes I agree, we should use CSS3 more but the rate of new browsers being released is increasing and for some people their default browser of IE on their Windows copy is enough for them. It depends on the site we&#039;re creating for, if its for a market for people who want to learn how to use a computer(!) then the chances of them using a different browser to their default is small.  There is definitely an increase in people being able to use computers and years to come this will probably be an easy task for &lt;b&gt;anyone&lt;/b&gt;.
If you want to validate to your style-sheets though then filters will pop up errors.

At the end of the day its what method works best for the situation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh, there are loads of pros and cons to using this. Like Jennifer R said, duplicates could be removed and yes I agree, we should use CSS3 more but the rate of new browsers being released is increasing and for some people their default browser of IE on their Windows copy is enough for them. It depends on the site we&#8217;re creating for, if its for a market for people who want to learn how to use a computer(!) then the chances of them using a different browser to their default is small.  There is definitely an increase in people being able to use computers and years to come this will probably be an easy task for <b>anyone</b>.<br />
If you want to validate to your style-sheets though then filters will pop up errors.</p>
<p>At the end of the day its what method works best for the situation!</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Leak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Leak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m with Ben on this one. We should be encouraging developers to be using CSS3, not adding more &#039;unnecessary&#039; markup than is needed to stylesheets.

I suppose it&#039;s a good technique to use in IE-only stylesheets. But then again, if the developer is using browser-specific stylesheets then he/she will probably know how to achieve the text-shadow in iE using filters. Or if not, they will *probably* have the sense to a little bit of Googling. meh. :(

That said though, it&#039;s a pretty good technique Elliot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m with Ben on this one. We should be encouraging developers to be using CSS3, not adding more &#8216;unnecessary&#8217; markup than is needed to stylesheets.</p>
<p>I suppose it&#8217;s a good technique to use in IE-only stylesheets. But then again, if the developer is using browser-specific stylesheets then he/she will probably know how to achieve the text-shadow in iE using filters. Or if not, they will *probably* have the sense to a little bit of Googling. meh. <img src='http://www.tuttoaster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That said though, it&#8217;s a pretty good technique Elliot.</p>
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		<title>By: Hein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Abhin

This is indeed true but we have to stay open for other ways, so in my opinion it&#039;s helpful for beginners who don&#039;t know how to use those IE filters to create these effects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Abhin</p>
<p>This is indeed true but we have to stay open for other ways, so in my opinion it&#8217;s helpful for beginners who don&#8217;t know how to use those IE filters to create these effects.</p>
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		<title>By: Abhin</title>
		<link>http://www.tuttoaster.com/creating-a-text-drop-shadow-without-using-css3/#comment-789</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice technique though it is better to use CSS3 for such support and you can achieve text shadow in IE using filters. This technique is impractical for real world situations, anyways good try</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice technique though it is better to use CSS3 for such support and you can achieve text shadow in IE using filters. This technique is impractical for real world situations, anyways good try</p>
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		<title>By: Zetura</title>
		<link>http://www.tuttoaster.com/creating-a-text-drop-shadow-without-using-css3/#comment-788</link>
		<dc:creator>Zetura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This can be simplified :

&lt;code&gt;
Your textYour text&gt;
&lt;/code&gt;

And CSS :

&lt;code&gt;
.text_container{
position: relative;
color: #333;
}
.text_container span{
color: #bababa;
position: absolute;
display: block;
top: -1px;
left: -1px;
}
&lt;/code&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This can be simplified :</p>
<p><code><br />
Your textYour text&gt;<br />
</code></p>
<p>And CSS :</p>
<p><code><br />
.text_container{<br />
position: relative;<br />
color: #333;<br />
}<br />
.text_container span{<br />
color: #bababa;<br />
position: absolute;<br />
display: block;<br />
top: -1px;<br />
left: -1px;<br />
}<br />
</code></p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer R</title>
		<link>http://www.tuttoaster.com/creating-a-text-drop-shadow-without-using-css3/#comment-787</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>be caution, maybe your website be banned of duplicated content while using this technique :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>be caution, maybe your website be banned of duplicated content while using this technique <img src='http://www.tuttoaster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Reid</title>
		<link>http://www.tuttoaster.com/creating-a-text-drop-shadow-without-using-css3/#comment-786</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well for May 2010 32.2% (IE6 + IE7 + IE8) of people used a browser that doesn&#039;t support text-shadow (text-shadow support: http://www.quirksmode.org/css/contents.html#t47), where as 67.1% (Firefox + Chrome + Safari + Opera) supported text-shadow. So the majority actually support it.

The point I was trying to get across was that text degrades just fine if text-shadow isn&#039;t supported - unless it&#039;s part of layout and causes display issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well for May 2010 32.2% (IE6 + IE7 + IE8) of people used a browser that doesn&#8217;t support text-shadow (text-shadow support: <a href="http://www.quirksmode.org/css/contents.html#t47" rel="nofollow">http://www.quirksmode.org/css/contents.html#t47</a>), where as 67.1% (Firefox + Chrome + Safari + Opera) supported text-shadow. So the majority actually support it.</p>
<p>The point I was trying to get across was that text degrades just fine if text-shadow isn&#8217;t supported &#8211; unless it&#8217;s part of layout and causes display issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
		<link>http://www.tuttoaster.com/creating-a-text-drop-shadow-without-using-css3/#comment-785</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree that people should upgrade their browsers! But if you look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp&quot; title=&quot;Browser Stats&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;these browser stats&lt;/a&gt; then you can see a lot of people still use browsers without CSS3 :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree that people should upgrade their browsers! But if you look at <a href="http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp" title="Browser Stats" rel="nofollow">these browser stats</a> then you can see a lot of people still use browsers without CSS3 <img src='http://www.tuttoaster.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A nice idea but we should be encouraging people to use CSS3 not add more markup to their HTML causing further load times. Besides, if a browser doesn&#039;t support the text-shadow property, it degrades just fine (unless the drop shadow is crucial to the design of course).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nice idea but we should be encouraging people to use CSS3 not add more markup to their HTML causing further load times. Besides, if a browser doesn&#8217;t support the text-shadow property, it degrades just fine (unless the drop shadow is crucial to the design of course).</p>
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